Hi :)
Happy Tuesday, it's open evening at the hackspace again, whether you're
inspired by it being World Creativity and Innovation Day or National Tea
day, it feels like the hackspace is a good place to spend some time.
We're at:
Suite H Kettock Lodge
Innovation Park
Campus Two
Bridge of Don
Aberdeen
AB22 8GU
There is sort of useful info on:
https://www.57north.org.uk/open-eveningshttps://www.57north.org.uk/contact.
Press buzzer H and someone will come and let you in after the wee bit of
time it takes for someone to walk the 30 meters to the door buzzer.
Reply if you have any questions, if you want to share your plans, or if
you'd like a lift or anything else.
I'll be in at around 7:00 I think, might 3d print a unicorn and will try
not to think about payment APIs.
See you there :)
Andy
Hi,
Sorry this has ended up as quite a long message. This is the version after I've done some fairly brutal editing :)
My current understanding of the hackspace laser(s):
We have a Trotec CO₂ laser that doesn't work. It goes through process fine from SW point of view but doesn't actually seem to fire the laser. It used to be a bit intermittent and if you rand it a few times it would start working, but lately (for a maybe years long version of "lately") has been giving nothing. A couple of folks have had a look at diagnosing/fixing it but not really got anywhere.
We also have a K40 CO₂ laser (on loan, rather than actually being hackspace property) that does work (or did when I last tried it, but that was at our last location so before 2019?) but would need cooling and extraction/filtration sorted to be able to use it in the space.
Is all of that correct? I'd be surprised if the years long passing on of details between various folks or me misremembering hasn't gotten some of it wrong.
I think the Trotec would be a good base to work from to frankenstein together a working laser.
Extraction and filtration good enough to use a laser in our current space without getting a visit from the fire brigade (or giving anyone cancer from breathing the fumes) is likely to be trickiest bit to solve for a DIY laser. That is already a solved problem for the Trotec so we "just" need to bodge a working laser into it without breaking that.
Building a fankenlaser will be a lot easier if we replace the Trotec controller and SW with open source versions. I've been doing some reading on what current options are (things have moved on a lot since the days when GRBL was new that I last played around with this stuff). I'm leaning towards FluidNC for controller and Rayforge to feed it. But haven't actually used either so would be keen to hear from anyone who has, or has other preferences.
http://wiki.fluidnc.com/en/homehttps://rayforge.org/
One of the FluidNC devs sells a variety of boards: https://www.elecrow.com/store/BartDring
The other high level thing we'd need is a working laser to control. It's possible the existing laser tube in the Trotec can be made to work but I wouldn't rate that as very likely.
We might be able to take the working laser and HV power supply from the K40 and transplant that into the Trotech. Unknowns there would be if the K40s owner is OK with us gutting it for parts and how much bodging would be required to make it fit to the Trotec.
If we want/need to get new parts I've seen some recommendations for Cloudray.
Tubes: https://www.cloudraylaser.com/collections/glass-co2-laser-tube
Power supplies: https://www.cloudraylaser.com/collections/power-supply
Matched bundles: https://www.cloudraylaser.com/collections/tube-bundle
Another option would be to go for diode laser rather than CO₂. That simplifies some things (no need for HV, water cooling or aligning optical path through the machine, much longer lifespan than CO₂ tube) but possibly complicates other things (can the existing gantry support the weight? Is there enough Z clearance? Blue rather than IR changes material compatibility. Might need to replace the window on the lid to be safe with the different wavelength).
Random aliexpress listing for an idea of cost/options going diode route: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007444269352.html
What I'd like to do now: buy one of the FluidNC controller boards and hook that up to the Trotec to see that we can get it moving and starting chiller, extraction+filter etc. Then (or in parallel) figure out details of what would be needed for the different options for actual laser to make a decision on that.
Anyone have opinions on that plan?
This is likely to go a lot faster if someone else can run with it (it's been languishing on my TODO list for ages already and all I've actually done is spend a couple of train journeys reading about options). I'm definitely keen to help with this but if just left to me it's likely to get lost among the may other things I'd like to do when I have time and then get forgotten about for a few months.
Well done to anyone still reading at this point :)
Robert
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I go the extra mile.
Usually because I missed the turning I was supposed to take.
Hi, happy Tuesday
How's it going? Hope you're well on this lovely sunny spring day. It's
open evening at the hackspace today, so there will be all sorts of hacking
and making occuring in the space, and other adjacent activities.
We're at:
Suite H Kettock Lodge
Innovation Park
Campus Two
Bridge of Don
Aberdeen
AB22 8GU
There is sort of useful info on:
https://www.57north.org.uk/open-eveningshttps://www.57north.org.uk/contact.
Press buzzer H and someone will come and let you in after the wee bit of
time it takes to get to the door buzzer.
Reply if you have any questions, if you want to share your plans, or if
you'd like a lift.
I'll be in at around 7:00, probably digging around for parts for a daft
music project.
See you there :)
Andy
Hi, happy Tuesday
Hope you're doing fine. It's Tuesday again, so open evening at the
hackspace, come along and join for the usual Tuesday things. It's a lovely
day for it.
We're at:
Suite H Kettock Lodge
Innovation Park
Campus Two
Bridge of Don
Aberdeen
AB22 8GU
There is sort of useful info on:
https://www.57north.org.uk/open-eveningshttps://www.57north.org.uk/contact.
Press buzzer H and someone will come and let you in after the wee bit of
time it takes for someone to walk the 30 meters to the door buzzer.
Reply if you have any questions, if you want to share your plans, or if
you'd like a lift.
I'll be in at around 6:30 I think, doing some 3d printing and tinkering
with a new web UI framework bits and bobs.
See you there :)
