There are "NoIR" cameras for Raspberry PI at about £25.
NoIR is short for no IR filter in the lens - so the camera CAN see IR.
Don't know if they are good enough for heat loss surveys though???
I might sponsor the camera but expect to need help with the programming.
Mike

On 22 Sep 2022 12:34, Andy Gaskell <ag@ssofb.co.uk> wrote:

Ta for the reply :)

I'd not really thought too much about other uses, but electronics
stuff would be cool.

It'd be a good thing to have as a shared tool, as you'd only use it
every now and then, in a, hunting the cold air leaks and fixing them,
sort of way.  It feels like more accurately targeting insulation
changes would make energy saving investments more cost effective.

I had wondered if the MLX90640 Thermal Camera with a Pi would be good
for tracking wildlife, motion capture, but since it's only 32x24
pixels the beasties would have to be quite big or quite close.  Don't
think it'd work for bats, for example.











On Thu, 22 Sept 2022 at 12:21, Wouter Piessens

<wouter.piessens@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have no experience with them, but wish I had in the current economic climate.
>
> I see a good business case for getting one of these in the space, as they could be used by members fir monitoring  their personal home leakage, while in the space they could help to identify any electronics that may go work incorrectly.
>
> What do you think?
>
> W
>
> On Thu, 22 Sept 2022, 12:16 Andy Gaskell, <ag@ssofb.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I've been looking at thermal imaging cameras lately, to help improve
>> the energy efficiency of our home.  It's probably a bit daft living in
>> a large-ish 150 year old house, but that's done already, so, hmm.
>>
>> Re energy saving, the conference videos from Saving Energy Aberdeen
>> were handy, if a little dry and heavy going, four and a half hours in
>> two parts, on "Saving Energy in Traditional NE Homes" at...
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FFMDAicV44yo&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C46cb33438c23419a2f0908da9c8e83e1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637994433163971640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=NrLb8llmWEqceGA4FnU7mJzMEcz%2Bh46EA3b7lPae%2Fok%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FMTUkiIq7KVs&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C46cb33438c23419a2f0908da9c8e83e1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637994433163971640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=8E%2BV0xSBSNpSjglH8M%2Fy8OHBgupWQDpfT5ZREglw6Nw%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>
>> Anyway, I've been looking at the rugged cameras which are pretty
>> pricey, the USB phone ones from Flir, Seek and Prime, make-it-yourself
>> kits, and renting one.
>>
>> Aye, so I've no idea whether it's a good idea, if the cheaper ones are
>> still useful, if it'll save money enough to pay for itself.  Anyone
>> have any ideas or experiences?
>>
>> Thanks :)
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kits and DIY things...
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fshop.pimoroni.com%2Fproducts%2Fmlx90640-thermal-camera-breakout&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C46cb33438c23419a2f0908da9c8e83e1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637994433163971640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=ljZgd%2F8bMxbYWQepARbhj3MSFe%2FH5eorhWul36KMjWE%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.raspberrypi.com%2Fnews%2Fraspberry-pi-thermal-camera%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C46cb33438c23419a2f0908da9c8e83e1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637994433163971640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=H5a0DhKpP9yAWrUCvswryCr2VH7K9%2BAxBAlyQGG9iCU%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>
>> USB phone/tab attached ones...
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thermal.com%2Fcompact-series.html&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C46cb33438c23419a2f0908da9c8e83e1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637994433163971640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=yjysK0ohclVKjxPNp3XMn8oLD1diTgLRJFLV%2FvduE34%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flir.co.uk%2Fproducts%2Fflir-one-pro-lt%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C46cb33438c23419a2f0908da9c8e83e1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637994433163971640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=jTIGrUn65qc3cl%2FihAPEsSP0lbMq7Re30%2F%2BtqFE08Gc%3D&amp;reserved=0
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>>
>> Standalone ones...
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.toolstation.com%2Frothenberger-ro-tcam-thermal-imaging-camera%2Fp61239&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C46cb33438c23419a2f0908da9c8e83e1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637994433163971640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=1Y4Uv15N%2BNoRT557XLT1JCQE%2BGFSSQJk0nPUcJ6uFBM%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhti-instrument.com%2Fcollections%2Fnew%2Fproducts%2Fht-a2-thermal-imager&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C46cb33438c23419a2f0908da9c8e83e1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637994433163971640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=nTqyvsIL8FKqMrCigbtXPtlnEqjM87h4Dv7oIwyl778%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>
>> Rental...
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hss.com%2Fhire%2Fp%2Fhandheld-thermal-camera&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C46cb33438c23419a2f0908da9c8e83e1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637994433164127879%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=zpMDWHQiJbZYf9%2B1ECVzZtYKaPHnvEkc7p9j23WoHO4%3D&amp;reserved=0
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