I'm going to Bring this back into discuss,

I disagree with membership being use as an issue here. Someone not being a paying member is not a concern I have over decision making in 57north.

However the spending we do has to aligned with to forwarding 57north is, I would ague that these stickers are really for Scotcon, where there is an overlap and raises the profile of 57north in the national and international community.

Midder


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Subject: Re: [57north-discuss] Re: Sticker making session & bulk ordering
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 06:07:13 +0100






Hi Vishnee,

I am taking this email chain out of the discussion mailing list.

We are appreciative of your work putting into designing stickers, however there are some serious concerns about your request. Some have already been raised by other directors of 57North.

We are a community led organisation, and do not have the budget to spend £320 on stickers. If it were to be £100 or so, that would be different story.  

Our source of income is generated through membership fees, and we want to ensure the money is not spend on a folly of one or two of the members, but rather have a meaningful contribution to the community. Without knowing the actual designs of your stickers, we do not have sufficient information to assess whether your stickers are a folly or benefit the hackerspace members.  Looking at the file names, my observation is they are for your folly, i.e. social centre activity, but I am happy to be corrected.

Another point of concern is that you are not a paying member.  While you are free to make suggestions to the space, we are free to ignore them.  On this occasion we have given it consideration, and not deemed it worthwhile for our cause. If you were a paying member, you would be having more say in our spends, but not at this time.

If you have any queries on our decision making, I would encourage you to become a paying member and raise them queries at the AGM.

Best regards,

Wouter






On Wed, 15 May 2024, 22:35 Victoria Neumann, <me@vishnee.de> wrote:
Sheet stickers are not durable though. They might be cheap, but that's
why they are cheap. Like the small Gary ones that are still having around.

Looking for vinyl or PVC sticklers, the cheapest I found were those from
https://www.stickermarket.co.uk/
If you can find some for similar quality, you welcome to search for it.

Took some stickers off the list and Midder is happy to pay £120, so that
would make the whole amount for hacklab for just over £320 (see screenshot).

cheers,
vishnee


On 15/05/2024 09:39, Andy Gaskell wrote:
> Hiya
>
> Who was the sticker printing with & how many of each of the 9 stickers
> would that be?
>
> Last time I got stickers done, which was a few years ago, I used FMG
> down in Brighton. I'd used them for stationery, flyers and cards
> before.  Looking at their website they've got loads of options, but you
> can buy 100 sheets of A4 stickers for £192. Depending how big the
> stickers were, but could probably get 4 sets of 9 on an A4 sheet, so
> that'd be 400 x 9 stickers.
> https://www.facemediagroup.co.uk/promo-print/stickers/sticker-sheets
> <https://www.facemediagroup.co.uk/promo-print/stickers/sticker-sheets>
>
> I was wondering what we did before, and if we wrote it down, all I could
> find was from 2016, on https://scottishconsulate.org/33c3/planning
> <https://scottishconsulate.org/33c3/planning> which mentions 500
> stickers for £20.  Looking at the website it mentions,
> digitalprinting.co.uk <http://digitalprinting.co.uk> there are a lot of
> options, but, for example, it looks like you can get 100 sheets, with 48
> stickers per sheet for £16.
>
> Not sure what exactly we can afford, but there might be more cost
> effective options.
>
> I'm happy to help with preparing design files for printing, done a fair
> bit of that before in a past life.
>
> Looking back through things, the last 3 figure expenditure (aside from
> rent) that was discussed, was the proposal for a load of welding gear,
> which was £700-1000, but we decided we couldn't really afford that.
> The email thread from last January is at...
> https://lists.57north.org.uk/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/57north-discuss@lists.57north.org.uk/thread/VYOPSMYSOGWY6DNF3BWKKUQPOFAEHJTR/ <https://lists.57north.org.uk/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/57north-discuss@lists.57north.org.uk/thread/VYOPSMYSOGWY6DNF3BWKKUQPOFAEHJTR/>
>
> I think we're generally pretty cautious on spending hackspace funds, but
> I think that's kind of a fair responsibility to the membership, which is
> where the money comes from, at the end of the day.  Financials,
> expenditure and stuff will be things to go through at the AGM on
> (provisionally) the 18th of June.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
>
>
> On Wed, 15 May 2024 at 08:14, Tom Jones <tj@enoti.me
> <mailto:tj@enoti.me>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     £750 is far in excess of what the hackerspace can afford to spend on
>     stickers. Please do not order anything without approval from the board.
>
>     Anything ordered before approval will not be reimbursed.
>
>     Tom
>
>     On Tue, May 14, 2024, at 23:12, Victoria Neumann wrote:
>      > hi everyone,
>      >
>      > there are now 7 stickers (in total 9 version) to be ordered and
>     it comes
>      > out to about £750.
>      >
>      > Is that still ok to use hacklab funds for the emf sticker exchange?
>      >
>      > cheers,
>      > vishnee
>      >
>      > On 16/04/2024 20:59, vishnee wrote:
>      >> hello everyone,
>      >>
>      >> the lack of cool buckie, gary and other stickers cannot stand,
>      >> especially before emf!
>      >>
>      >> for this i'm planning a diy sticker making session next week
>     during the
>      >> open day following the guiede by the c3stoc (c3 sticker
>     operation centre):
>      >> https://stickeroperation.center/how-to-sticker/
>     <https://stickeroperation.center/how-to-sticker/>
>      >>
>      >> join with ideas, recommendations, or sticker files you'd like to
>     see!
>      >>
>      >> also, could we do a bulk order via the hacklab?
>      >>
>      >> cheers,
>      >> vishnee
>      >>
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